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About the Episode:

This episode is extra special because we get to feature two amazing small businesses and their owners. Part 1 features Karen Vanessa Garcia, owner of a small Native American owned businesses located in Isleta Pueblo. Part 2 is a great conversation with Mercedes L. Wharton image consultant and stylist. Listen and find out why we love these New Mexico small businesses!

Links
Rez Riderz Ink Etsy
Rez Riderz Ink on Facebook
Timmie’s Closet
Timmie’s Closet on Facebook 

Original Music by: Kene Terry

Rez Riderz Ink photos

Featuring:

Karen Vanessa Garcia

Born and raised in the Pueblo of Isleta. I am Tiwa Pueblo. I have been surrounded by a family of artist all my life. My father is a known painter of pottery and my mother is a crafter. Both have always been in native arts. I began exploring my own artistic goals with painting and drawing. I retired in 2016 and took some time off. In 2018 I launched my dream of having Mt own native owned business of handmade crafts but in glassware. I began with native themed etched glassware and grew to designing custom dance shawls, bags and other native products used in Pueblo life. 

Featuring:

Mercedes L. Wharton

Mercedes is the style crusader! She’s fighting for you to be the best version of yourself. Certified from the Fashion Stylist Institute as: Wardrobe Stylist Fashion Stylist Jewelry and Accessories Stylist Member of the Association of Image Consultants International (AICI). Public Speaker, Sustainable Fashion Stylist.

Episode Transcript

Bunny : (00:00)
Hi there. I’m Bunny Terry, and you’re listening to the I Love New Mexico podcast. Whether you’re a native new Mexican, who’s lived here for your entire life, or you’re just considering a visit, this episode is for you. Join us as we share a lot of New Mexico stories, talk about all things New Mexico, and include topics like what’s magical here, where you ought to visit, what’s happening, and the things you absolutely cannot miss in the land of Enchantment. We’re excited that you’re here and we can’t wait to show you what an amazing place New Mexico is, because let’s face it, I love New Mexico.

Bunny : (00:50)
The funnest part of what I do with the I Love New Mexico podcast is that I get to meet people that I would never get to meet otherwise. And, um, one of our guests, our guest today is Karen Vanessa, who is a member of Islet Pueblo and, um, who is born and raised in New Mexico, although I believe there was a moment when she left the state and then found her way home. But, um, the cool thing is that she is, um, a creator as well. So rather than me, um, reading the bio that you sent us, I’d love to hear your story, Karen.

Karen : (01:29)
Sure. Um, as you stated, my name is Karen Vanessa. I am from the Pueblo of Aleta, which is Tiwa, uh, native here in New Mexico. Um, born and raised here. I have been around, um, artisans my entire life. My father, Herman Lenti is a pottery painter. He’s been doing it for over 50 years. Um, he actually introduced me into the art realm when I was growing up. Um, he has painted pottery freehand. Um, he used to go selling at the old town, um, shops when we were younger. He would make connections and do all of that, um, as his primary income at, at one point. Um, and so seeing that and being exposed to the types of traditional artisans such as him helped not only myself, but a lot of other artisans within New Mexico itself, explore different avenues of our traditional culture. Um, at times where it does clash with contemporary New Mexico living. We live in two worlds. We live our pueblo life, and once we leave the reservations to look for occupations outside of the reservation, then we live another, another life. Um, some of us do hold onto those traditions as best as we can, and we vet that through the art that we create. It may be pottery making, it may be pottery, painting, um, making pottery by hand, sewing, um, creating different types of native themed, um, products that are utilized in our everyday culture. Um, it’s just a different way of exploring who we are and not losing touch, um, with the generational changes that do occur.

Bunny : (03:24)
So I want to place you geographically, because I always tell my guests that we have a lot of people from all over the world that listen to this podcast. So, um, can you let people know geographically where Isleta is located, just so they can sort of get, get you placed in their heads?

Karen : (03:44)
Sure. And I know it’s really hard for people to understand that there are different types of natives, um, such as us. A lot of people come to New Mexico and, and when I’ve gone out traveling to different, uh, states, in fact, a lot of people, um, are under the assumption that we are all one type of native, which is rarely true. Um, we do come from New Mexico, the ones that do, of course, live here. But the natives from here, most of us in the Pueblo sector itself, we all live along the Rio Grammy River. So we are based south of Albuquerque, uh, which is about a 20, 25 minute drive south of Albuquerque. We are also located just north of a small village called Bosque Farms and north of Las Luis. We have two major highways that do run through our pueblo, along with a major interstate. So we’ve become very well versed within today’s society, but still love our pueblo living.

Bunny : (04:40)
Oh, and it is beautiful there. I just, I, you know, people have this idea that New Mexico is this big, vast desert, and I’m sure they think that we have soro cactuses, which we don’t. But, um, I, where whereas le is located along the Rio Grande is really, really one of the most beautiful parts of New Mexico, I think. You agree?

Karen : (05:04)
Yes, ma’am. I do. I’m a little biased, but yes, I agree. , of course,

Bunny : (05:08)
. Yes. Um, water and cottonwood and, um, well, I, it’s, it’s just a beautiful place. But talk to us about your business in particular. What is it that you do and what inspired you to dec to take to, to decide this? I, I mean, I understand your dad, um, was part of that, but, but it feels like you found your own path as well.

Karen : (05:35)
It did take me a while in, in high school, I had a teacher whose name was Gail ran, and she taught graphic arts, and I, on a fluke, ended up with her as an elective. She explored in different avenues of like, screen printing, linoleum, block printing, and really gave a different sense of the contemporary part of what I wasn’t familiar with when it comes to art. And watching my dad, um, create his pottery and his designs, and then doing those things in high school really captured my interests to showcase that in a different way. So when I graduated from high school, that was my whole intention was to become a graphic artist. That’s actually what I wanted to be. And life happened and things went a different avenue for me, but I’ve always had that interest. So I would try doing like Christmas cards with small designs, or I would actually do, kachinas was one of my biggest things. I loved the way Kachinas, um, Kachina paintings were, uh, for like the Hopi people and so forth. That’s a, that’s a big thing for their culture, and it just really captured my interest. So I used to try to, you know, mimic and draw Kachina drawings, um, and then I would watch my dad paint his pottery, and he was so very talented in doing so. He does it freehand and doesn’t really have to scale too much. He’s been doing it for such a long time, and he was a complete artist. He could draw anything, and he’s kept the traditional, uh, designs as best as he as he could. But being a younger generation and seeing things in a more hip, I guess state you could say, is I knew there was a different way that we could express ourselves and still be traditional in that aspect. We’ve all seen movies, native movies such as Power Highways, smoke Signals, um, Billy Jack, you know, different things as we grew up. And there’s always been that little bit of a contemporary twist added to things such as that in, in the movie world. So in trying to bring all that together, I have tried to incorporate those designs into things that people can utilize in today’s modern world. So, like, for example, we have the, everybody knows me for my Fry bread power, uh, designs. I usually do t-shirts, and that’s one of the things I sell on my et shop. And I put it into coffee mugs. So I incorporate as much of the native theme, which for us Pueblo people, kilts are, are a huge factor for us when we take part traditionally. And so I’ve incorporated that into the contemporary design as the Fri Bread power shirt, which became even more famous during the Smoke Signals movie, um, and tried to keep that as modern, contemporary traditional, I guess you could say.

Karen : (08:40)
Um, nowadays we have everybody’s running around with their water, water cups and their thermos and so forth, but we also have newer things coming out such as the, the Netflix show, like reservation dogs. And so to give it a little bit of splash of that, we have all of our native actors, um, that participate in the show. But of course, with things that we can use in today’s everyday life. In sticking with that, I still do, we, we do make the, the bells that as you maybe have participated and, and gone to watch the dances and so forth, men utilize these, of course. Um, we still utilize our, the, they still utilize the pelts and so forth with their traditional garb. Um, some make the shas and I do shas as well. And some of the photos that I had, uh, included were, uh, some of the customized shas that people ask for. They use, um, clan animals such as like Badger Clan or Parrot Clan, antelope Clan. And then I incorporate those designs with today’s feel. So, you know, I try to keep it as traditional as I can, but because of the younger generations coming through, of course, do you have some that think it’s a little old fashioned and they wanna look a little bit more hips. So I try to try to accommodate those requests as best as possible, as well as including my own things, spin on things as to, hmm, I wonder what people would really be interested in and try and incorporate that in designs and, and items that we do, um, design for people.

Bunny : (10:18)
So tell me, um, I mean, if I’m, I’m, you know, if I’m listening to the podcast and I’m thinking, wow, I’d love because I am, because I would love to, to see where I, you know, where, where can folks buy what you’re creating?

Karen : (10:33)
Well, I have a small Etsy shop right now. Of course, during Covid, uh, a lot of us weren’t able to go out and, and sell at the Feast days or any of the arts and craft shows because all of that was closed down. So I think a lot of us were pushed to, uh, explore different avenues in getting our art out there. And Etsy shops were the big thing at that time. So I created a small Etsy shop. Of course, there’s a lot of things that you can include on there because of the, the, the policies that they do have in some items you can post on there. But that, that was my big step into the direction of, um, getting myself out there more on social media. Facebook was a huge factor for me. So I do do a lot of marketing on my Facebook account, which is Res Riders Inc.

Karen : (11:18)
Um, it does have, its unique spelling because res res people, we spell things a little bit more, uh, differently than what people hear. So, you know, there’s a Zs at the end of everything, um, Inc instead of as Incorporated. It’s i n k. Um, so there’s those little spins on, on things to try to capture people’s interest and to be a little bit more unique in, in today’s world. Um, I also just launched a website, um, on Square, which when I do go out to do my arts and crafts is one of the, the portals that I utilize in order to, um, allow people to purchase my products. So that just was launched this week. It’s still a little under construction still, um, tightening up a, a couple of things that do need to be squared away, but I think for the most part, that’s the biggest step that I’ve taken in this journey.

Bunny : (12:09)
Well, Karen, I want you to know that, we’ll, when, when this airs, uh, I mean, as this airs, we are, um, making links available so that people, people can find you and find your products. But I want to, um, and, and I want to be, um, very sensitive and very smart about how I speak, but, um, I did have somebody recently, um, one of my, um, Navajo friends said, you know, bunny, we would always, I would always prefer that you call me a native as opposed to Native American. Is that how you feel? Is that correct? Is that

Karen : (12:44)
I think it just depends on, on the era that some of us were raised, how we were raised. And of course, it all comes back down to people and their understanding of generational, um, generational traumas that did occur. Um, I’m more open and understanding of things that have happened. Um, I do understand the things that our people did go through and how we’ve had to heal as best as we can as our generations have come forward. But in order for us to move on, we really need to be more open and more broad. So there are some things that I do not mind people referring us to Native being that we are native new Mexicans here in, in New Mexico, I don’t mind that at all because we are all native, but it, I don’t take offense if somebody calls me Native American. I don’t take offense if anybody calls me indigenous or an Indian, um, because those are the things that we grew up being referred to as. But it’s about having an awakening and moving forward and just being able to educate, um, people who do have questions. So they aren’t wondering, what can I ca or can I not say to somebody who may be indigenous, who may be native or Native American? So I would rather have people ask.

Bunny : (14:09)
Well, thank you, thank you so much.

Karen : (14:11)
Yeah. I would rather have people ask instead of wonder, because that’s how we all learn about one another.

Bunny : (14:17)
Absolutely. Well, and the other way that people, um, learn is by not, um, pigeonholing any group of people and especially their art. So I think it’s so cool that you’re doing something that feels, um, to me, um, really contemporary and, um, fun. And I, I, I , I have to have one of those fried bread cups. I’m gonna have to go get one right now, , um, because it’s one of my favorite things and I love the design. But, um, I, Karen, I want people to find you. I’m so excited that you came on to talk to us for a little bit. Um, and maybe we can figure out a way to, um, create a promotion to get you a little more exposure. Wouldn’t that be fun?

Karen : (15:05)
I really appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Bunny : (15:14)
So, because New Mexico is such a small state in terms of population, not, not geographically, but in terms of population I have and the whole, I love New Mexico crew has a real love for small businesses. Um, I think that’s what really sort of drives the train in terms of commerce in New Mexico other than tourism. So today, um, we have as our guest, Mercedes Wharton, and, and Mercedes has a small business in Albuquerque that, um, is something I feel like we could all use. And I think it’s the coolest kind of entrepreneurship to take something that I suspect you love Mercedes and turn it into a business. Um, I’m, I’m anxious for you to tell people who you are and what you do and what you offer.

Mercedes : (16:05)
Okay. So, uh, my name is Mercedez Wharton. I live in Albuquerque. I am, I call myself a style crusader. So a style crusader, I feel like is somebody fighting for you to be the best version of yourself. And coming out of the pandemic, uh, you know, our standard uniform has been sweats or pajamas. People are headed back to work. And so I help in the, I help people get dressed for whatever reason. It is, it, I feel like everybody deserves a stylist. You don’t have to be a celebrity to have a stylist help you be the best version of who you are.

Bunny : (16:47)
Uh, that’s so interesting because, um, a as I sit here in my, um, leggings and my , um, my New Mexico t-shirt , but, um, I do, um, I do think we became a nation of, um, sweat wearers for a long time. And so it is kind of tricky. I do a lot of, um, a lot of dress up events, and I think it’s tricky to make that shift now back. I mean, have you found that with your clients that they’re like, uh, I don’t have anything in my closet that I like?

Mercedes : (17:24)
Yes, I think that happens all the time. Whether there’s a pandemic or not. I feel like people don’t really know what’s in their closet, haven’t looked at stuff that’s sitting back there, and then that’s just, you know, I’m a big, uh, supporter of being sustainable. And so, you know, if that’s sitting back there and you’re not using it, you could be giving it to someone that could use it, and they’re stepping into their power by using your clothes. And so I’m all about sustainability. I’m all about what’s in your closet, wear it. Uh, and I’m not saying that you shouldn’t go look for clothes, of course, um, you know, but I feel like we don’t necessarily know what’s in there. It’s been a while. Um, I could tell you, I launched my business seven months before the pandemic, and I’m in a global chapter of image consultants called A I C I, which is Association of Image Consultants International. And when the pandemic hit, we were like, what do we do? Like, what are we gonna do? Like, I was kind of in a place going, I just launched my business. I’m , I was on a roll, and now here we are. And my husband get, you know, we had high school, my sen my son’s senior year, two years ago in high, his high school was in his room, my husband’s office was in the living room, or I’m sorry, in the kitchen, and I’m in my office. And it was one of those moments where he said, you’re just on a delay. And I just knew I was needed. And now that we’re coming out of the pandemic, people are ready to be out of what they were in. I’m wearing black pants and sneakers like you get, I want you to dress in what makes you feel good. And I feel like that’s your style. One of my taglines is, um, I want you to be able to express who you are and tell the most important story, which is your story. And your story can be different every single day. And wearing clothes that make you feel good gives you opportunity, possibility, and positivity. Anything can happen from there.

Bunny : (19:29)
So let’s, I, so, so let’s educate people. I, and I’m, I’m just gonna tell everybody here that I do have a stylist that I work with on occasion. And I gotta tell you, it’s changed my life and it’s not crazy expensive. And it is so important to how I feel about how I present in the world. And so let’s educate people. This is not just something for the Kardashians. I mean, this is the work that you do works for everybody, right? I mean, tell, so if somebody’s out there and they’ve never hired an image consultant, what, what should they know about you and how you work?

Mercedes : (20:08)
So, oh, that’s a great question. So one of the things I like to do, like the first steps is I like to meet with, um, the client one-on-one. And I wanna know, I get nosy. I wanna know everything about you. What do you do for work? Are you a solopreneur entrepreneur? Do you work in an office? Um, are you the boss? Are you presenting at work? All these things. What do you do outside of work? What do you like to wear on the weekends? Because I feel like that is what we wear is, uh, different parts of our life. Um, I’ve worked with people that are retired that don’t want, that want to be able to be comfortable at home, but maybe go have a date night here and there. So I get nosy and I like to ask a lot of questions because that gives me information. It gives me information on what your struggles are and what you’re excited about. I also do, um, body shape analysis, which has nothing to do with your weight. It gives me information on what your body type is. And there’s five body types. There’s triangle, rectangle, inverted, triangle, round, an hourglass. And like, I’m a triangle, which means my hips are wider than the rest of my body. I have, um, a long, uh, a little bit of a long torso in short legs. So I wear jackets that are pretty short, that make my legs look longer. I wear black on the bottom. There’s like all sorts of things you can do. And then I also like to do color analysis. Which color analysis is not the color walking into the room. It’s you walking into the room. When you wear the right color, it brightens your eyes, your, your face shines. And people are going, wow, you look really good today. It’s, and when you wear the wrong color, I’ve had people go, are you feeling okay? And I’m like, you’re like the second person to ask me. I feel great. What is the, what is the deal? It’s cuz when you wear the wrong color, it can aid you, it can, um, bring out imperfections. And so I like to do color analysis as the first steps for people to kind of really see all the amazing things that, and possibilities that can come from wearing the right color, knowing your body type. I want you to be educated. So when you’re going to the store and shopping, you’re not wasting your money. You’re getting pieces that can be intermingled into your closet that, that you can use over and over again. And so I tell people, think about how many different ways you can wear a gray v-neck t-shirt and put it with different jackets, put it with, you know,

Bunny : (22:49)
That brings to mind a completely different conversation. But I’m sure you get to touch on this with people is that a lot of us tend to shop not, or, or, or maybe it’s just me. Um, sometimes I tend to shop not for myself, not for my own style, but for what maybe, um, you know, I think my friends will like, or what I think my husband will like or what I think, um, I, I, you know, I, for years I used to look at things when I was shopping and I would think, oh, did with my best friend in high school like this. And I think, wait a second. There’s women in particular, I think tend to shop to please other people. And, and I wonder if that’s what you’ve found

Mercedes : (23:36)
Very good. I mean, that’s true. We or we shop for what is on the mannequin and the mannequin’s a standing yes mannequin, right? So what looks good on the mannequin, that’s not realistic. And so I see that too. Um, so that for sure I find, um, as a, as a, as an image consultant, it’s almost not about the clothing, it’s about what’s going on on the inside. So it becomes a counseling session because you will see people that have something in their closet and they save it for someday. And I just feel like that’s a form of punishment. You should embrace who you are in this moment and you should be wearing clothes that look good on you. If your goal was to lose weight, I’m all for it. Uh, I mean that is, that is something that is commendable. I think you should do it, but you can still look amazing as you go down that journey.

Bunny : (24:39)
Can can we just repeat something you said, keeping a piece of clothing that you’re gonna wear for Sunday someday is a form of punishment. It really is. It’s sort of us beating ourselves up because we can’t wear those size six jeans anymore. I mean really How does, that doesn’t serve anybody, right?

Mercedes : (24:57)
No, I mean, and and to say that men don’t go through this, they go through it too. I’ve worked with men with, uh, I know I’ve had, yes. And men go through it too. Like some of the comments, you know, like, uh, what I had a comment, what do you think about these shorts? And I said, I like ’em. You don’t think my knees look nobby? Well that never came across my mind cuz I was looking at the shorts and I said, but I think you need to change the narrative of how you talk to yourself. And I think, um, the things we tell ourselves, I would never tell you to your face. So why am I doing it to myself? We deserve to feel good in who we are. And an outfit, like a kind comment can change your day. It, and I’ve said it and like I said it earlier, it can give you positivity, possibility, and opportunity when you walk into that room, embrace who you are. There’s so many things that could, could come of it. And it’s, and I’ve seen it. I, I learned a lot of this from my dad. I named my business after my mom. So if you’ve seen the, um, marvelous Mrs. Maisel, you know that the clothing is a huge thing of the show. And that was my mom’s era. She, my mom and dad are no longer living, but they are my influences every single day. They are my fashion icons and we’ve had a lot of loss in my family. Um, my mom passed away when I was 12 suddenly. Um, my dad was a single dad of three girls, then he started dating and my dad was like Mr. Popular, he was really cute. And um, he met my stepmom who we loved. She was amazing. But she passed away, uh, from cancer. So in an eight year period all this happened. My dad got three more kids cuz we were like the Brady Bunch. And I moved home. I lived in, um, Albuquerque here now where I am now. But I grew up in Los Alamos. And so I moved home, quit school because I had an opportunity to work at Los Samos National Labs. And all I cared about was being home with my dad. And I felt like, oh, he needed me to be there. But really what it turned out to be was he got up every day, he showered, he put on clothes that he liked, that he looked cute in and he was retired and he just, that set the day. Now, not every day was gonna be a great day. We’re dealing with a lot of loss. But him and I made the best of each day. And I always joke, he was my favorite roommate of all my roommates. But he taught me just from observing him that wearing clothes sets the tone for the day. Doing your hair, putting on your makeup sets the tone for the day. So I learned that from my dad. And you know, it’s a crazy world here. So my mom’s name is EU Timia and I name my business Timmy’s Closet and my fashion icons are with me every single day. And I go with that intent of we deserve to feel good in who we are and clothing is the just a tool to get us there. And so that’s why I do it.

Bunny : (28:09)
So, um, I’m sure that there are people listening and they’re like, well yeah, of course. Wouldn’t it be nice? But, um, this is not out of reach for the average person, is it financially?

Mercedes : (28:21)
No. No. I am a big consignment sustainable kind of person. And um, I collaborate with what goes around here in Albuquerque and my business and their business collaborate. So I’m the store stylist at what goes around. Um, and they can, I worked there for, um, 10 months, which is something that they want all of us image consultants to do to really understand retail and to see what comes into that store brand new that for whatever reason, I, most of my clothes that I wear are from what goes around. And that’s what I want people to think about. Look in your closet, shop in your closet. What’s in there that you haven’t had? Some of the things I offer is I will create a capsule for you. I will take pictures of your clothes and put looks together and then send it to you. Takes the guessing of being, I mean, how many times have we opened our closet and God, oh my god, I have nothing to wear. But there’s a piece of clothing on every single hangar. . Right? I’ve been there, I’ve done that. Right,

Bunny : (29:30)
Right. So I, and it is true that we tend to wear 20, I mean we, the, the Pareto principle works with your clothes too. We tend to wear 20% of our clothes 80% of of the time. Right. I think, you know, I wear the same thing over and over and over. And so I think that service that you offer is something that peop that might be unexpected to people, but it’s really, really smart to have a fresh set of eyes come and look at your closet and say, hang on. Um, did you, so you remember this, this blouse from this corner of the closet and this skirt from this corner of the closet. Have you ever considered putting them together? I mean that’s gotta be great fun.

Mercedes : (30:12)
Oh, it’s like their mind goes, what? I would’ve never paired that together.

Bunny : (30:17)
Right.

Mercedes : (30:18)
And that makes me happy cuz I’m like, ah, see now and if nothing makes me more happy is when my clients will sneak into the bathroom and take a selfie at work. , they’ll think, I wasn’t think, I didn’t think I was gonna wear this bold print, but here I am. And I’m like, it looks great. Some people don’t want attention drawn to them, which I understand. So, but you know, from what I’ve noticed, I’ve like a funny story. So I go see my doctor once a year. She’s hip young thing. I’m 53 years old. She’s this hip young thing and I noticed, um, that she would always comment on what I wear and I would chuckle to myself cuz I’m like, I’m wearing a pair of clogs, some comfy pants and a t-shirt. But she’s like, you always dress so cute. So of course I left there trying to get my head out the door cuz I was like, she noticed that I was like, that kind of thing was like, oh, that made me feel so good. And I just thought, there’s something to this, there’s something to this. And everybody deserves to feel good because the le really, when you, you’re ready to take on the day, you’re not thinking about, oh, does this jacket feel good or does this shirt feel good? I want you to go and attack the day and do be the best version you are at work, at home, whatever it is. That’s what’s important to me, you know, that makes me feel good. I’ve seen clients, um, I had a client put on, um, a white shirt and then I had a red version of the same shirt we were at, uh, personal shopping. And I take pictures of them so they can see what it looks like. And the picture of my friend , my friend, my client, she was like this and the shirt she hated. But then when I put the shirt that she loved, she like had her hand on her hip and you could tell her posture changed her, her attitude changed. And so that was like a lesson for me. It was like, okay, I just wondered her be to open and I’m open. So if you say no, then it’s not gonna happen. I’m not gonna make you wear something that you’re not gonna ever wear. I want you to love everything that’s in your closet. Your closet should be your best friends at, at a, a nightclub. And you’re all dancing together. So when you walk into that closet, you’re like, Hey, I missed you. Hey, how’s it going? Let’s put this together and let’s go attack the day. That’s what it’s about.

Bunny : (32:34)
So, so my treat for the day is not just that I get to talk to a small business owner in New Mexico, but I also get to talk to somebody who really loves what they’re doing and is making a difference in people’s self-image. I I we are going to post a link to how people can find you. Can they just give you a call and get a consult just to get an idea of what you offer?

Mercedes : (32:59)
Yep. They can go to my website, which is timmiescloset.com

Bunny : (33:04)
We’ll put a link up. Yes.

Mercedes : (33:07)
Yeah. And you can feel free to call me. I’ll answer and talk to you to see if it’s, if I’m a right fit for you and if you’re a right fit for me. Because I feel like, um, we need to be be on the same page. Cuz I want you to be, I want you to go out there and attack the world like we’ve been living in a pandemic and it’s time to come out. It’s time to take that job you didn’t think you were gonna take it’s time to get out there and, um, you know, maybe you work from home. So when you’re visit visiting clients or going to meet somebody, dress it up a little, dress it down a little, whatever is what you want, that will change your, your whole aspect of, of what you do and why you do it.

Bunny : (33:51)
I love this conversation. Mercedes, thank you so much for being a guest. Thank you. And for allowing us the chance to talk about your business because you obviously love it and you’re having fun, which is the most important thing. Mercedes, thank you so much. Thanks. Thank you for being part of this conversation about small business in New Mexico.

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