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About the Episode:

Say hello to “The Little Goat Outpost.”  We love this  rural homestead with two miniature goats located in the tiny village of Tres Piedras, New Mexico. Run by the great Tanya Savas, a fellow New Mexico lover. Learn more about her business and why you should go for a fun “glamping trip” up in Tre Piedres as soon as possible.

Links
The Little Goat House website
Find Little Goat House on Instagram 
Bunny’s website
Buy Bunny’s book on Amazon
I Love New Mexico Instagram
I Love New Mexico Facebook
Original Music by: Kene Terry 

Featuring:

Tanya Savas

Tanya is the resident “Goat Lady”/Proprietor at The Little Goat House/The Little Goat Outpost. “The Little Goat House” came about as the culmination of many years of hopes, dreams, frustrations, despair, lessons, and growth. Originally a physical place, The Little Goat House now serves as the brand umbrella for all of my self-directed creative work. The purchase of the original “urban homestead” site of The Little Goat House in Spokane, Washington, was motivated by the desire to develop a sanctuary for myself within the bounds time and space, and to fulfill the lifelong aspiration of keeping pet goats!

With determination, a lot of cussing and neuroses, and — above all — the tireless support of friends and family, The Little Goat House at 726 S Cook St was a 2-year project that exceeded my expectations for results. In May of 2020, on the eve of my 31st birthday, I accepted an offer on the purchase of my Cook St home for a 47% profit. I then packed up shop, the goats, and the kitty, and headed to a tiny cabin in the high desert of Northern New Mexico! Our new property in the village of Tres Piedras, just at the outskirts of Taos County, offers all the seductions of living with the land. The goats are overjoyed with the opportunity to roam around our 2 forested acres, attacking the native scrub oak as they go. Meanwhile, waking up to the passive solar sunroom heating up the cabin, looking out on the Sangre de Cristo mountains through the kitchen window while I do dishes, and walking out the front door to the Carson National Forest, I finally feel like I’m home.

Episode Transcript

Bunny: (00:00)
Hi there. I’m Bunny Terry, and you’re listening to the I Love New Mexico podcast. Whether you’re a native new Mexican, who’s lived here for your entire life, or you’re just considering a visit, this episode is for you. Join us as we share a lot of New Mexico’s stories, talk about all things New Mexico, and include topics like what’s magical here, where you ought to visit, what’s happening, and the things you absolutely cannot miss in the land of Enchantment. We’re excited that you’re here, and we can’t wait to show you what an amazing place New Mexico is, because let’s face it, I love New Mexico. So the coolest thing about, um, meeting people in New Mexico is that you never know who you’re going to get to meet. And as I’ve said before on this podcast, this has been one of those venues where I’m meeting people I never, ever would’ve met in a different place, perhaps, although I think that I would’ve met Tanya because she has the coolest offering, um, in the world, and it’s very unique. And, uh, so today our guest is Tanya Savas. And Tanya has a place accommodations, um, tours that involve miniature goats, whichI don’t know that I ever would’ve occurred to me as a business offering. And yet it looks from the website, like the coolest thing in the world. And Tanya, instead of me trying to explain who you are and what you do, I, I’m just gonna welcome you. Thank you for being here and tell our fans and our listeners what it is that you’re doing with your life.

Tanya: (01:55)
Hi Bunny, thank you so much for the introduction. That’s really fantastic and thanks for the, the love for the goat things that I’m doing. Um, so my name is Tanya. I am the owner of the Little Goat House. We have been around now since 2019. I actually started the business up in Spokane, Washington. And so my goats are Idaho goats. They came from a farm in Priest River, uh, four H Farm. And I specifically wanted Nigerian dwarf goats because I knew that I was going to incorporate them in my short term rental business that I’ve been doing on and off since 2014. Um, so it has been my goal and my dream literally for the last decade to bring this offering into existence. Um, so when I started renting on Airbnb, I had like, you know, just a little two bedroom apartment in one of the Junkiest neighborhood nooks in town. This was back in Providence, Rhode Island, and that’s, that’s where I originally hail from. And I just thought, you know, what would, what would make this cooler? Renting, you know, one bedroom in an apartment, what could, what could be like a really good niche and really good angle? And, uh, that summer Jezebel named it the Summer of Goats . Um, I only know this because my coworkers at the time sent me an article and they were like, oh, you’re actually onto something that’s trending . I grew up somewhat around goats and I just have always loved them. I’ve always been an animal lover. I’ve always had a lot of animals. And so I just got this idea in my head, like, let’s, let’s combine short-term rental and, and goats. And it took me seven years, uh, to get to a place where I could buy a home in a place where I was allowed to keep goats when I first got them, that was in Spokane, Washington, and they allow urban goats. So we were actually on a 6,000 square foot lot. Um, and I procured the goats and I bottle raised them from babies. So I got them when they were about a month old, and they’re now coming up on three years old. And then when it came time for us to move to New Mexico, um, we just loaded up in my truck, I threw ’em in the back. I got a camper topper for the back of my truck. I had a little, uh, scam camper trailer, one of those egg trailers behind the truck in a U-haul. And we just trucked it on down here and set up shop in Tres Piedras.

Bunny: (04:47)
And for New Mexicans, I mean, at least for me, I know Tres Piedras is, it’s north of Espanola, west of Taos. How far are you from Taos?

Tanya: (05:01)
About 45 minutes to the center of town.

Bunny: (05:04)
Right. So for folks, for listeners who have been to Taos before, you just head out to the gorge and you keep going west and Tres Piedras stands for,

Tanya: (05:12)
Uh, three Rocks and which

Bunny: (05:14)
Are very prominent.

Tanya: (05:15)
They are, and there’s actually five really prominent, um, rock formations here, but whoever named the town, I think they stopped counting before they assigned the numerical part of the name

Bunny: (05:29)
. That’s funny. And Tanya, you are in the Tusalo Mountains, which I know because my husband used to, um, hunt there when he was still hunting, uh, for food. That’s, that’s the reason that he hunted. But, um, so I know those mountains relatively well, but I am so curious. You’re from Rhode Island, you’re living in Spokane. Where in the world did the siren song of Tres Piedras New Mexico find you, how they find you?

Tanya: (05:59)
So my family actually I have a long history with New Mexico lifelong history. So my parents met in New Mexico. My mom was living and working as a bus tour driver, um, for Greyhound Bus back in the eighties. And my dad flew out from New England and took her tour as like a week long tour. And so I actually have a photo of her driving her Greyhound bus over the Taos Gorge Bridge.

Bunny: (06:38)
How cool is that?

Tanya: (06:40)
It’s, it’s pretty neat. And she never wanted to leave New Mexico. Unfortunately. My dad’s family ties, uh, dictated kind of the trajectory of their relationship. And so I grew up in, in New England, but we came out here at least one to two times every year since I was born. My grandfather lived at Laina. He was handicapped. He had polio, so he was in a wheelchair, and he lived, uh, many long and happy years at Lani in Albuquerque. So we would visit him, and then we also had 10 acres of land, um, down in Noal, New Mexico. Wow. Um, and that’s where I first became acquainted with goats. And for those of you who don’t know, Noal is about 20 minutes outside of rdo. So is the, the closest big town, uh, , if you wanna call Ruidoso, big town, um, . So, you know, so there’s actually a lot of parallels between no gal and Tres Piedras. And so and our neighbor down there lived in one of the first, you know, gen Earth ships, um, that she and her husband had built. They were woodworkers and artists, and, and Georgia still lives down there. She’s a very talented woodworker. Um, and so she had goats and every time we’d go visit the land, you know, it’d just be me and my parents sitting around on a plot of vacant land. So I’d go and hang out with the goats

Bunny: (08:11)
. That’s so cool. And you loved them. You had an affinity with the goats,

Tanya: (08:16)
Right? I loved them. Yeah. And then, so when Covid happened, um, I had actually been in Santa Fe. I was looking to move and relocate. I also am a, um, graduate of St. John’s College. Graduated in 2011 undergrad. And so I had been subletting in Santa Fe and looking for a permanent place to relocate. And initially I was looking to be closer to Santa Fe, and then when the big upset happened, um, Airbnb overrode their host cancellation policies, and I went from renting out my place in Spokane and having like a solid month of income book to having nothing on the books overnight, um, because Airbnb allowed everyone to cancel and didn’t offer any, um, compensation to their hosts. So I decided to change my game plan and look for something more affordable, and just kind of like a cool place any, anywhere that was available in northern New Mexico. And this place popped up and the price was right. I like to to flip homes. So my first one was the one I sold in Spokane. And so now the place that I’m at, I, I bought it with the thought in mind that this is way underpriced and I can do a few things, take some better photos, and if I don’t like it in two years, I’ll move on.

Bunny: (09:35)
Wow. Wow. Well, congratulations for ending up in one of the prettiest places, I think in the world, um, but certainly in the state and you now offer, um, accommodations. And the way I understand it is several different, I mean, people can come there at camp, they can come there and stay, but they can also just come for the day, right? They can come for a three hour hike, right? Tell folks what you’re offering.

Tanya: (10:04)
So the main offering that I have that’s currently running and open is the goat hiking and goat photo shoots. So I, um, I will take people out in the forest and we will go for anywhere from a one to two to three hour hike. Um, you know, I can really customize it based on what people are looking for. Normally people do one or two hours, um, and we just go explore with the goats. So it took some light training, but, uh, because I raised them from bottle babies and because they’re also herd animals, uh, they are already predisposed to follow me. Um, so it didn’t take a whole lot for me to teach them to just follow along, like dogs. Usually in a pack of people in a group, they will try and center themselves in the middle. So they like to have a human on each end in the front and the back. And that’s for protection. They know that, that I’m the protector and the provider, and so they like to be sandwiched in the middle and they just trot along and I’ll, you know, show people the scenery and take photos of them with the goats, kind of whatever they want to do. And, um, usually what I found is that it’s a catalyst for conversation. You know, more than anything, people are just desperate to have connection with other people. I mean, especially during Covid, it was so I could tell that it was so nice for people to just be outside, talk to someone and learn about a completely different lifestyle, because most people have never lived in a place so remote as this. So they’re intrigued both on like, okay, how did you get the goats, how did you train them? All of those kinds of things. And then also like, what is your, your life ? So there’s a lot of cool conversations and, um, people that you get to meet just like you Bunny are getting to meet all of these really interesting folks. I get to meet some really cool people, um, on these hikes and just share stories and experiences, and a lot of them end up becoming lifelong friends. So I started the goat hikes in Spokane and, and just carried them on down here.

Bunny: (12:22)
And I’m, I’m cur I want, I want listeners to get a real picture of what Tres Piedras is like. And you’re not even in the, I was gonna say town. I know it’s a village. What, what is the population, do

Tanya: (12:34)
You think? So there’s about 400 people. Last I googled , right? Um, there is one business, uh, the Chili Line Depot that has right select, uh, hours , I know how, based on, you know, based on when, when people can be found to, to man the restaurant. It’s, it’s a restaurant, so you can’t get gas there, you can’t get groceries there, there’s no supplies or services. Um, so technically the closest is Anton Nito. But because it’s in Colorado, I never go there for gas. It’s way more expensive and their groceries are terrible. So I go to Taos, uh, that’s like, that’s really the closest where you can get supplies, um, and services. But I’m at 8,100 feet here at my house, and the land as you go back towards the forest just slopes up. So you’re, you’re climbing, you’re gaining elevation while you’re hiking, and you have just these beautiful sweeping vistas out over the Sangre de Christos over the mountains in Taos. Um, Wheeler Peak can be seen from here, the tallest peak in New Mexico. And so, um, it is tree High desert, so I’m on the side of 2 85 that has, um, the, the fauna and the, um, these big ponderosa pines. We’ve got junipers, we’ve got scrub oak. It’s just a beautiful country and yeah it’s a good workout too. .

Bunny: (14:11)
Well, and what sort of wildlife do you see either from your home or when you’re hiking?

Tanya: (14:17)
So, um, well, you see cows, this is a fence out state, so a lot of people run cattle up here. So occasionally I’ll get some cattle in my yard and definitely see them out in the trails. Um, I also will get elk is the number one thing that I will see, and I’ve actually seen my dog. So I have a rescue dog from the Stray Hearts in Taos, and she’s, um, I believe a Rhodesian hound mix. So she’s quite the, the nose to the ground. Uh, she’s always out looking for, for animals and sniffing things out. And so she actually chased an elk right in front of me and over a fence, um, one time. And it was just the most magnificent thing. I mean, it’s, it’s loud when an elk is running full steam and then they jump. Yeah, they’re enormous. So, you know, you hear the ground shake and, um, so elk are the, the number one thing I would say that I see. There are the, the big horn sheep that are more over towards the gorge. So I don’t usually see them over here, um, at my place. And then there’s always tracks around. Um, I don’t know too much about the tracks. I’m not, I’m not a tracker per se, , but I know there’s, there’s bunnies, there’s always wild bunnies. And so I try to keep my dog away From the bunnies.

Bunny: (15:43)
You probably ha do you have, you probably have some coyotes howling in the night? I don’t know.

Tanya: (15:46)
Definitely. Coyotes was funny. I was just back up in Spokane visiting my mom and the coyotes where she lives in town are a thousand percent more than what I have here. Wow. It’s crazy. Those are

Bunny: (15:58)
Urban, urban coyotes. .

Tanya: (16:00)
Yeah. Yeah. So I’m mainly here. I’ve never seen any of the coyotes here. She sees them outside her door almost every morning. Wow. Here. I’ve never seen ’em. They do get pretty close and they howl. I think they know the goats are in their barn.

Bunny: (16:16)
And, and I don’t wanna, you know, I don’t wanna, you know, if somebody’s listening who’s from, you know, the, the center of United States, and they don’t, you know, that they feel uncomfortable with wildlife, I wanna make it clear that we’re really, um, I mean, we’re living on their turf and I know you’re probably really respectful, but it’s just such an addition of beauty that, that people are not going to experience elsewhere. So I think it’s really it’s a cool thing. But talk to me about the people that have come there, I mean, what’s the most surprising thing that you’ve seen? You know, where do they come from? What do they love about it? I’m really interested in that

Tanya: (16:55)
They come from all over. The most interesting, I think, experience that I’ve had doing this was I received an email back in the summer or spring of 2021. And it was from a gentleman who calls himself the Shadow King 13, uh, out in New York City. And he told me he has been working on a mixtape, he is a YouTube wrapper, so he, you know, he makes an income stream by streaming YouTube and, and having videos and ads on there. And, um, you know, I looked him up and he’s actually, I really enjoy his music. I’m a big rap fan actually. So he reached out and said, you know, I saw that you do photo shoots with goats, and I have this whole story about the, the mythology of Azazel and like being the black sheep. And, you know he is involved with goats and I wanna come and do a photo shoot with your goats for my mixtape cover. So he flew out from New York and I took him to a spot in Taos that some local listeners may be familiar with the Pyramid that’s out on the Mesa on Veraga Road. And so that’s kind of like a Earthship style, but it’s a, it looks like a pyramid and you can go inside. And so I took him over there and we did a photo shoot with my very talented friend, um, Allie Grit of Dashing Creative. She is also a local business owner, so she was my photographer that I’ve worked with for a lot of shoots. And she came up from Albuquerque and we took him out and we gave him a bunch of, it was a night shoot. He brought his cousin for support and he was wearing, so in the in the email originally. He was like, well, I’m gonna be wearing goat pants and like something else. I’m like, what is a goat pant?

Bunny: (18:59)
, right?

Tanya: (19:00)
So turns out it’s a furry pan with a hoof at the bottom where your shoe would be that covers your foot. And so he was wearing, uh, yeah, furry hoofed pants. And, um, also he had those like contacts that make your eyes white, but he had never put in contacts before, so we had to put the contacts in his eyes and then we had to lead him around because apparently, I didn’t know this, I’ve never worn those contacts, but apparently you can’t see when you have the man . So we kinda had to drag him to different spots for the shoot .

Bunny: (19:37)
Wow.

Tanya: (19:38)
And that was, that was really incredible because I, you know, I googled like goat photo shoot New York, and there’s a whole company right in New York City that just specializes in goat photo shoots. So the fact that he found me and and wanted to come here to do that with me was just amazing.

Bunny: (19:56)
Is, that is amazing. Tell me about, I mean, have you had international guests?

Tanya: (20:02)
I mean, I’m sure I have, but none are standing out to me at the, at the top of my mind. You know, I’ve been doing this for so long that people kind of start to blend together, , I’m sure. You know, and not to say that like, I don’t have a unique story with everyone, but you know, in the big, in the big mass of people, it’s all just like incredible people from all over. I mean, I get a lot of folks who are doctors, lawyers, you know, people who are kind of in the straight and narrow careers that come out and their kids get to, to see this life. And they, you know, they’re just so amazed that, you know, I’m a single woman out here and I cut all my wood for heat. Like .

Bunny: (20:46)
I gotta tell you, I’m determined that when my California grandsons who are six and nine come to visit, we’re gonna come and do a goat hike, I think.

Tanya: (20:55)
We’d love to have you. Great

Bunny: (20:56)
And you are only, how, how far are you from Santa Fe? About an hour and a half.

Tanya: (21:01)
I am one. Yep. Like precisely one and a half hours, so yeah. Yeah, it’s pretty accessible. The drive is incredible. And then Ojo Calle is only 30 minutes south of me, so you basically just hop on 2 85 and you just go, north Trace is the last place on 2 85 before you hit Colorado. And then it’s also got really good proximity to, um, Posa Springs. So, you know, instead of being in Taos, you’re like three hours from Wolf Creek Ski area. I’m only about two hours from Wolf Creek, um, three hours from Durango, and then the San Louise Valley right to the north. If you keep going on 2 85, you know, you’ve got some amazing things up there. Creststone, um, the Land Trust with the newest hot springs, that’s a great spot. The sand dunes, I mean, there’s so many cool areas to explore around here. So there’s really a lot if people wanna make a day trip or a weekend trip. And then I always recommend if people have more time and they like a nice scenic drive, um, instead of just going south on, uh, 2 85 to get back to Santa Fe, you can take the 2 22, which is the road that I live off of. It’s a Forest Service road, and it will take you, it’s about 30 minutes longer than the way to Aho on 2 85. So 2 85, 30 minutes to Aho 2 22 is about an hour. Um, it’ll take you through some, like, there’s a couple of 100, 200 person villages back on that road, and it’s just incredibly scenic. It goes from dirt to paved. You’re up super high, you’re at like 8,500 feet, and then it drops and you just see the scenery change like wines, and there’s vistas and it’s incredible. And there’s, there’s a secret waterfall back there that I’m not gonna tell people how to get to, but that’s another place that I do offer to take folks out to you. And it’s just a really cool spot.

Bunny: (22:58)
Well, and I’ll tell you, one of my favorite day trips from Santa Fe is to drive to Taos early and go to breakfast and then drive West, get to From Tres Piedras, and then drive over to the Brazos and go to Tierra Amarilla and maybe drive up to Chama and have lunch and then come home. Because every one of those roads is, um, it’s, it’s sort of that, you know, you go around a corner and you go, oh my gosh, there’s another view. It’s just, it goes on forever. So I would, I’d recommend that to anybody. And they can stop and do a goat hike with you.

Tanya: (23:36)
Yes, they can.

Bunny: (23:37)
, So, Tell me the names of your goats and your pets.

Tanya: (23:43)
So if you’re, uh, if you lean Christian, I just tell people they’re John and David, and it’s biblical, right? , but their full names are actually John Waters and David Lynch, uh, to, I love that, you know, sort of avan garde, uh, directors and usually people know David Lynch more than John Waters, but, um, both with some significant work and some pretty weird work, in Film . So the reason I named them that, uh, the, the, when I was in Spokane, um, David Lynch is from Missoula, and so there’s a really Twin Peaks kind of vibe to where we were mm-hmm. in Spokane. And so, you know, I just thought, well, for marketing purposes, um, let’s, you know, let’s go with something that’s unique and that will get me some hits on the internet. And, um, David Lynch. So, you know, it, it just fit with the, the home that I had and the, the setting there. And then I thought, well, who’s weird enough to hang out with David Lynch,

Bunny: (24:47)
, John Waters,

Tanya: (24:48)
John Waters? See, and there’s that one iconic picture of them, like shaking hands outside of Big Burger when they were both like 30 maybe, um, . And I think that’s the only time they ever met. But they have met, and I believe they, they respect each other’s work and, um, sort of, you know see each other from afar. And so it kind of was just funny that like, yeah, here are two people that are like tenuously connected in real life and

Bunny: (25:16)
Yeah, and, and John Waters just received some, I’m sorry, I’m not recalling what it was, but some award in Santa Fe. I can’t remember what it was.

Tanya: (25:23)
Yes, he did, and I don’t remember what it was either, but I did actually just see his, um, Christmas comedy special before I left. John, it’s a John Waters Christmas and it was, it was at the Lensic.

Bunny: (25:38)
Oh, wow.

Tanya: (25:39)
Yeah. Yeah. So, it was really fun and I’d actually gotten in touch with his manager, and unfortunately I didn’t end up meeting him because I was a little late to the show, um, . So, you know, I was, I think I needed to be there ahead of time, but I did throw it out there to him that, Hey, because John Waters runs a summer camp every year in Connecticut. And I told him like, if you ever want John Waters the goat to come make an appearance, like he is very filthy goat and he would love to come to the summer camp and provide added entertainment. So we’ll see if that ever shakes out in the future. I think it’d be a fun offering.

Bunny: (26:17)
. Well, so one of the things I saw on your website is that you also at some point offer camping. Is that still an offering perhaps in the,

Tanya: (26:27)
It has been on pause, um, but my intention is to restart that offering this summer. Yeah. So, um, basically I usually will have one tent camper out per night. Um, so I try to just, just keep the space reserved for one group of people. Um, and typically I get like smaller families, solo travelers, a lot of female travelers, so, all right. Another one of the coolest people that I’ve met is my best friend Kate, who now lives and rents, uh, a cabin in Tres Piedra two blocks behind my house. She was actually my first camper ever, um, when I started that listing back in the fall, I think it was of 2020. And, um, so I was listing on hip camp for the first time to do campsite stuff. And it was my first time booking a camper through them or having anyone camp at this land. And it was her first time staying at a hip camp. And so she came and she stayed and she was just, you know, she, she’s like, I know I can camp in the forest for free, but I’m a single woman. I’m traveling alone. And, you know, 2022 is like, the number two is a lucky number for me. And I saw it and it just co kept popping up. She was down in Albuquerque when she was looking for a place to stay. And so she drove up here just to stay at my camp. And, we ended up connecting. She’s an herbalist and she does, um, elder care and dementia care. And so, you know, after the first night we ended up bartering and, uh, she, she gave me a bunch of her homegrown herbs from Portland and um, you know, she, uh, I let her stay for another couple nights and I think the third night was kind of cold, so she stayed on my couch cuz it was already the fall. And then six months later she packed up all her stuff from her house in Portland where she had been living for the last 10 years. And she moved out here and she lived in my backyard in a tent for about a month before then she went traveling and then she came back and, and rented the cabin. So, um, yeah, I’ve had some really interesting experiences in that, in that regard too, where it’s just, yeah, it’s like building lifelong relationships. But I have, I’ve got two acres here, so, um, folks basically can just set up wherever they want. Um, I have, uh, water from my water catchment tanks, so it needs to be boiled if you’re gonna use it for cooking, but that’s available to folks. And then pretty much, yeah, it’s just very minimal. There’s not really a lot of amenities, so it’s really, you know, like back country camping, but for folks who might wanna do it in a setting where okay, they, they know where they are. .

Bunny: (29:19)
That is so cool. And, and I like that you offer gift cards because I have, I have clients who move here and I mean, I’m thinking of one right now. This would be the perfect welcome gift for these clients is to give them a three hour go. That would be wonderful.

Tanya: (29:37)
Please. Yeah. Yeah.

Bunny: (29:41)
So we are going to provide links. This is just such a unique offering, but we’re going to provide links and we’re gonna help people find you and we’re gonna help them find Hip camp and we’re gonna help them find your friend who does, who helped you with the video. I mean, any links that you would like for us to add because, um, I, so, so the, what’s cool to me about this is that New Mexico is a place that offers you a way to live your dream in, um, you know, with, without a ton of investment. I mean, I know you had to buy a house but my gosh, you’re getting to live at over 8,000 feet with goats that were once urban goats, but now they’re trade risk goats and good for you.

Tanya: (30:30)
Thank you. And I’ll tip you guys off to one more thing before we go. I know we’re coming up on the time, but, um, so another, uh, offering that I did have at one point was a, um, converted school bus. So actually a gentleman that I went to undergrad with at St. John’s a decade ago. I hadn’t heard from him until you know, at, at all really until the spring of 2021. And it turned out that he was coming through, he had been following my business on Instagram, you know, we remembered each other, we had fond memories. And so he said, you know, my girlfriend converted a school bus, can we come? And, and he was moving down to Las Cruces to start medical school and he is like, can we come and park at your place for a couple of days? They were coming from Oregon. So they came and parked and I’d never met his girlfriend before and they had their bus. And, um, within 30 minutes we decided to be business partners and we ended up renting out the bus up here for the whole summer of 2021. And so we had a partnership that we started with the help of the S B D C. So, um, for all you folks who may be small business owners or aspiring entrepreneurs out there, just so everyone knows there is free business coaching through the S B D C, just look them up. And they can.

Bunny: (31:56)
Is that the small Business Council?

Tanya: (31:57)
Yeah. And as or sba Small Business Administration I never know what acronym you know you’re supposed to use or whatnot, but Google those guys, small business, whatever, you know, the national agency and they have free business coaches in all 50 states that can help you and they will meet with you as many times as you need. They’re paid by the state, so it’s not like they’re like pro bono, like they’re getting paid and they wanna help you. And, um, it’s a really phenomenal service. So we use them to set up this partnership. Anyway, fast forward, uh, Carrie and I, that’s, uh, the gal who owns the bus. We, we did this partnership all summer and then we ended up working for a regular with two job together. And now we are looking at starting a glamp camp in Farmington. So this is kind of the first, uh, hopefully she won’t be upset with me for just putting it, putting it out there. But this is, this is on the, the plans upcoming that we are trying to get hip camp going in Farmington and we’re meeting with the city to see you know, what, what spots might be good and kind of what the regulations are and what we can really do. But the, the economic development committee seems very interested in having us there. So that may be a future project in the works to stay tuned. We’re just calling it Project F for now cuz we haven’t decided on the name yet, but I think it’s kind of cute. .

Bunny: (33:24)
I love that. And, and is the bus still at your place?

Tanya: (33:28)
The bus is not, um, the bus is in Las Cruses right now, but it will be getting moved to the hip camp. Um, the Glamp camp in Farmington. Yeah.

Bunny: (33:38)
That’s also exciting and, and it’s just another one of those instances where, um, come here and you can build the life the exactly the life that you want and it doesn’t have to look like everybody else’s. I’m so proud of you. I think you’re like the age of my daughter, so I’m, this is so cool. Thank you that you’re, you’re doing this and you’re having fun and you’re obviously really joyous about it. And the goats get to live in a really cool place.

Tanya: (34:05)
Oh, they love it. They love it every day you just see like, they’re just so happy to be here and you know, all the animals, they absolutely adore it. So .

Bunny: (34:18)
Well Tanya I hope to be seeing you on a goat hike soon. I’m gonna wait until it’s slightly warmer than January in Northern New Mexico, but thank you for, for reaching out and for offering to be our guests because it’s so much fun to talk to people like you.

Tanya: (34:34)
Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Bunny. It was a pleasure.

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